Threats to withhold federal research funding highlighted just how much some institutions rely on government grants. Should institutions diversify their funding streams to have a better chance of maintaining independence in the future?
Absolutely. When I was president, from the very early years, we worked to diversify, and we did diversify our funding streams. Even before this destructive assault on higher-education funding from the federal government, there were slowdowns like the Great Recession and the pandemic.
That said, there will be no substitute for government support for research. That funding has helped enable universities to make massive contributions to prosperity, the economy, and something as resonant with the public as life-saving health care. It was a partnership.
If it’s lost, will the universities that get the largest amounts of this funding survive? Yes, but will they be able to do as much for the American public as they did before? No.
You mention resonance with the public. So much discourse about Ivy League institutions seems to feature the politics of grievance.
They’ve faced calls to admit more students. Headlines noted you received $23 million in compensation for your last year as Penn’s president. Does the sector face issues about its contributions to the public good or communicating about them?
I’m the first in my family ever to graduate college. I grew up not understanding the research mission of colleges and universities. What I did understand is what college could do for individuals. And I think that’s what resonates most with people who care about colleges and universities: the opportunity.
There is a lot broken in our society about that opportunity. I think it’s very reasonable for people to want colleges and universities to graduate more students. There’s nothing new about the public not understanding the research part of colleges and universities.
I think the public can understand the value of having free institutions in our society. In the book Democracy in America, Alexis de Tocqueville looked at the U.S. and saw it as a place where lots of independent associations and organizations thrived and were not subservient to a centralized government and the repression that a centralized government can bring.
This question is the right question because it is the question about whether, ultimately, universities can be the source of opportunity for individuals and the source of creativity and innovation for our society. If the answer is “no,” it’s going to really harm all Americans. For the answer to be “yes,” I think we need to stand up as many people as possible for the freedom of universities and colleges to educate students, to hire faulty, to do research, and to pursue knowledge wherever it will bring us. It’s academic freedom, but you could just call it freedom.